Obscure vault 99 (7)

It's the cryptic crossword discussion game. Tease each other with clues, help each other with the dailies, educate the beginners, whatever.

• Raak - They are indeed, and here's two more.
  At last, the southern aristocrat has reached the door to Germany. (5)
  Roust! Roust! At last! (5)
• Raak
  Of the eight clues:

  one consists of just the definition,
  one is an anagram,
  one is an embedding,
  one subtracts a letter from a word,
  one uses initial letters,
  and three break the word down and clue its components.

  (These descriptions are in alphabetical order.)
• Martha farquar - Right, I geddit...
  SUTOR, but never heard of it before
• Raak - Correct!
  Rare, even obsolete down south, but it may linger on in the Scottish dialect.
• Blob - A new clue (for a different word)
  Intended to hold final redistribution of money (7)
• Chalky - the different word
  [btw Raak - enjoyed the multiclue]
  Yes, MF, FINANCÉ [Intended = FIANCÉ, holding the last letter of redistribution = N,] fits the definition, but I can't help feeling I've overcooked it ...
• Blob - *ting*
  That was quick, well done. Didn't expect the Intended to be picked up so quickly.
• Blob - In that case, how about ...
  Uncommon Ale; one I digest (never my first) - and only very rarely (4,2,1,4,4)
• rab
  I'm thinking it's ONCE IN A BLUE MOON but can't work out why.
• Chalky - A new clue for another different word
  I meant to add this:
  Hesitate about small business centre (4)
• Raak
  [Chalky] CO (small business) + RE ("er" backwards).
• Blob - rab *ting*
  [rab]Spot on; it's an anagram but with an M (my first) removed - it would have been harder (but still I think acceptable) to have not included the "- and only very rarely" - the definition then being the "Uncommon" which doubled up as part of the anagram.
• Blob - Er ....
  Hmmm - Apologies - I've just looked at it and seen that somehow I missed out the B - sorry, sorry, sorry - will check them better in future.
• Raak
  Nothing still outstanding?
  It's not right to scry the lawnmower. (6)
  He'll summon you for taking a bad grip on a faulty reamer. (4,6)
• Dujon - Raak's
  Second one would be GRIM REAPER?
  Sorry, it hit me straight away - I'll have a look at the first one when I'm finished what I'm up to.
• Dujon - Back again
  Your first, Raak would be SCYTHE ?
• Dujon - Ruddy 'eck
  *chuckles* I'm a bit slow - I only saw the connection 'tween the two after I'd posted my last entry.
• rab
  ... Is Raak hinting something ... ?
• Blob - Sowing ....
  The time has come for this one or Huw ! (3,2,3,4)
  Running up to a mate ? (3-4)
  Get memory back ? Now begin, cringe not badly - The aroma of a great game !(10,8)
• Blob
  (Boldly)
• rab
  I think I've got the third of those... but I suspect we really need to solve the first two first!
• Blob - 1,2,3
  I perhaps ought to modify the first one slightly ...
  The time has come for this one or Huw - that's crazy ! (3,2,3,4)
  Running up to a mate ? (3-4)
  Get memory back ? Now begin, cringe not badly - The aroma of a great game !(10,8)
• Raak
  [rab,Blob] They are NOW IS THE HOUR and END GAME. I wonder what the third could be?
• rab
  It looks like it might be Mornington Crescent.
• Audience
  *shouts, screams, generally goes wild for rab*
• rab
  Whoops, didn't mean to be so bold...
• Blob - *ding*, *ding* & *ding*
  I think that's what Raak was suggesting !
• Inkspot - Festive Film Fun
  This is from a quiz list that appeared in our office a couple of days ago, we have managed quite a few.
  See how many you can get before looking at the answers.

  A Seasonal Christmas Quiz of 100 Cryptic Film Tiltles

  1. Mallard Minestrone	Duck Soup	2. Yeti's writing fluid	Monster's Inc.
  3. Becky's grown up	Rebecca	4. Bowling lane, but how's it spelt?	Ali
  5.Hope this doesn't keep you awake at night?	A Nighthare on Elms Street	6. Welsh emblem finised its book?	Red Dragon
  7. Definite measure of plural time?	End of Days	8. Overtaking on the Motorways?	Life in the Fast Lane
  9. I'm sure I've got one of these on my computer! (Don't feed them after midnight)	Gremlins	10. Where debutante yetis go?	Monster's Ball
  11. Coloured eye zone.	Iris	12. How old is this popsicle?	?
  13. Not The Bad Boy, but...	Good Fellas	14. Continue, little Cleopatra!	Carry on Cleo.
  15. Initial letters of this family car game. See?	ISPY	16. Staay out of sight. Also catch up on the darning.	Lilo and Stitch
  17. Seventies teen mag joins a dark tan.	?	18. One of these is this; Countdown. Catchphrase.	?
  19. Fast train in the middle of the night.	Midnight Express	20. Collectively, they have no vices.	?
  21. Local transport firm in the spotlight?	?	22.Tempted to do this to annoying parent en route from Swindon to Paddington?	Throw Mama from the Train
  23. Desert hero definetely not empty.	The Full Monty	24. Not "Cat Night Morning". but...	Dog Day Afternoon
  25. Egglayer Sprint	Chicken Run	26.Limited Liabliity Joint Stock________definetely belongs to Midlands FC	A Company of Wolves
  27. Head of hockey team meets life liquid	Captain Blood	28. Tiny, huge adult male.	Little Big Man
  29. Slapped your lunar body.	Moonstruck	30. Offspring of G.W.R. Workforce? Definitely.	The Railway Children
  31. Azure homocide at infamous girls' seat of learning.	Blue Murder at St. Trinians	32. Singular gorgeous brain.	A Beautiful Mind
  33. Remaining group members.	?	34. Direction of falling raptor who's the opposite of white	Black Hawk Down
  35. Mr "London Bridge" in the Good Life meets Dr "Mac" in Doctors	Jerry MacGuire	36. Little Henry isn't deep	Shallow Hal
  37. Yankee trousers go with lightning	?	38. Curve definite item in mannerof celeb. Footie star.	Bend it Like Beckham
  39. Definitely a film for Mr Straw's donkey	Jackass the Movie	40. Bugs can't get through this boundary	?
  41. Give wrestling area a call?	Rings	42. Scorpio's creature is dfinitely a ruler.	Scorpion King
  43. Half of this clue goes with a Beast. The other half is a colour	Black Beauty	44. Cry from a children's game	It
  45. Definitely pop me one of these to relive my teens!	?	46. Summon E.R.'s Dr. Noah.	Get Carter
  47. Lucky number of days in the week.	7	48. Another E.R. clue. Where's the hospital?	St. Elsewhere
  49. Similar to short Micheal	Just Like Mike	50. Light black is spelt the American way with Miss Church	Charlotte Gray
  51. Sandy Mound	Dune	52. What comes between answer 51 and the water	The Beach
  53. Elephant General	Hannibal	54. Initially an apple and an Indian	A.I.
  55. Introduce a controlled water source to a backbone	This is Spinal Tap	56. 'Allo, 'Allo parody nation make the link	French Connection
  57. Volume of this on London Bridge Jerry	Trraffic	58.Clue 56's Twix and Mars bars	Chocolat
  59. Bards proclamation of deep affection	Shakespeare in Love	60. Little Laaady haas finish delayed	?
  61. Keegan and Fred the sportsmen travel on a big scale	Kevin and Perry Go Large	62. Eg Jets and Sharks	Gangs of New York
  63. Heroic Organ	Braaveheart	64. T.S. Meets The Kid...(wot, the 'ell)	Billy Elliot
  65. Mad peanut butter is definitely this scientific lecturer.	The Nutty Proffessor	66. What is left before nightfall	?
  67. Definitely a faultless direct attack by troops	?	68. This particular Dartington is not light stuff	?
  69. Tell me a secret in Los Angeles	L.A. Confidential	70. Sight organs aren't so narrow or open	Eyes Wide Shut
  71. Rodent marathon for instance	Rat race	72. Development of a different type of race	?
  73. Mr. Web	Spiderman	74. Howard Carter was one of these (officially)	Tomb Raider
  75. Traditionally a baby girl definitely gets one of these at the font.	?	76. Part of Chaucer's pilgrimage epic (Just the one)	A Knights Tale
  77. It rains like this, yap,yap, miaow	Cats and Dogs	78. Heavenly ice-cream	?
  79. Singular mathematical formula	?	80. Take first person, singular from shriek	Shrek
  81. Before the House of Hanover, it wasn't huge.	?	82. Adds their autographs.	Signs
  83. Initially needs to 'phone home'	ET	84. Tony the Frosties star bends his knees. Pete's Disney pet is out of sight	Crouching Tiger, Hidden Lion
  85. Goldilocks' middle sized bear definitely comes back	The Mummys Return	86. Timely catastrophe	Apocalypse Now
  87. Insects with a letter error.	Bugz	88. Wiltshire folktale features misguided lunar image capture. Just 1.	Moonraker
  89. Mot a majority feedback	Minority Report	90. Add together every dread	?
  91. This vast, portly nuptial celebration in Athens, is mine	My Big Fat Greek Wedding	92. Do these members of a football team belong to the sea perhaps?	Ocean 11
  93. Anxious kitchen for example	Panic Room	94. Definitely named when one enters the world.	?
  95. 33rd American President stages solo performances, just once?	The Truman Show	96. Magnetic direction alongside 45 degrees less	Nort by North West
  97. Sesame Steet's vampire belongs to Jesus' mountain whatever the language	The Count of Monte Christo	98. Definitely employment for Mario.	The Italian Job
  99. The full snake joins the elusive clerical goblet	Monty Python and the Holy Grail	100. Is the contents of the book relating to the man-child	?

• Dujon - Films
  I'm as far from a film buff as one might possibly get, however, how about four of them?
  79: "Big Bang"
  81: "Stuart Little"
  90: "Fearsome"
  94: "Birth"
• Dujon - One more
  A bit of a long shot:
  66: The Sinister Shadow?
• Dujon
  Sorry, I intended to put those in 'white' ... Hides head in shame
• matt - frustration
  Sorry to drag this mouldy old game out of the cupboard, but I'm stuck on 3 clues in today's Grauniad and may go insane if I don't at least air them. It's by Bunthorne, in case anyone knows the setters well enough for that information to help (I don't, though I know I like some better than others).

  27 Across: Backhanders part of this player's service? (9) S _ * _ * _ E _ R
  23 Down: The pen of Zeus? (4) _ E _ *
  24 Down: She's between borrower and lender (4) _ O _ *

  (The asterisks mark the points of intersection, in case that's not totally obvious.)

• Dujon - 24 Down
  "NORA"? As in neither a borrower nor a lender be?
• Dujon - 23 Down
  I was thinking of "AURA" (Zeus turned her into a fountain) but apart from being somewhat of a stretch it would muck up your 'E'.
• Dujon - 27 Across
  "SCRIVENER"? Anagram of 'service' and 'RN' - the latter being the 'senior service' and a type of cigarette produced by Players. Convoluted? Backhander/Bribe/Broker/Scrivener ??? Dunno. Anyway, again, it'll muck up your 'E' in this one too. I shall retire.
• Dujon - Doncha just hate it?
  Why am I confusing myself and attacking clues about which I know sweet bugger all? 23 Down could be "LEDA" ... If I recall correctly Zeus diguised himself as a swan to seduce her - which would make her a pen?

  That would blow 'Scrivener' out of the water which, given the 'E' conflict sounds reasonable.

• Dujon

  		L		N
  		E		O
  		D		R
  S	H	A	M	A	T	E	U	R

  Got the beggars - I think. ... :-/

• matt
  All correct, I think. NORA came to me in the night, and I'd actually considered LEDA but not added it up right and gone off on some other tangent. I would never have had any hope of getting SHAMATEUR, a word I don't think I've ever encountered before. It doesn't appear in my (somewhat old) Collins English Dictionary, for example, although it does turn out to be the only result of egrep ^s.a.a.e.r$ /usr/share/dict/words.

  Anyway, thank you: not only insanity avoided, but a new word learned as well. I shall be forever trying to find excuses to use it in conversation :)

• Dujon
  These days, matt, the oportunities would be few and far between. I remember the word being used fairly frequently in days gone by - mainly to do with Olympic Games competitors and Rugby Union players in the days when all participants were supposed to be amateurs. Whilst the meaning of the word is pretty much obvious, as is its etymology, I'm not sure when it was coined. One source (Allwords.com) indicates the late 19C. The dictionary I have here in the workshop (Penguin) is of no assistance.
• Dujon - Hrmph. 'opportunities'
• Dujon - Being boring, no doubt.
  "The first use of the actual term shamateur recorded in the OED dates from 1896 when the Badminton Magazine declared `For frank and open professionalism there may be a good deal to be said, but nothing can make ... the "shamateur" attractive.'" (from http://www2.umist.ac.uk/sport/Sports%20History/Birley.html)
  Sorry, sometimes a wee bit of trivia worries away at me. I'll shut up now.

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